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ddtlm
Oct 12, 07:52 PM
javajedi:
Sheesh, I have no idea how Java is defeating C... and those scores are still bizzarre. However PCUser did get 8.86 seconds on an Athlon 1533 with the right compiler flags. Looking at that, I wonder if the compiler flags are the cause here. Since this whole thing is essentially sqrt(), I wonder if the newer x86 chips are packing some strange special sqrt() assembly instruction that makes this huge difference. Hmmm. Otherwise I wonder how an Athlon at a little more than twice my clock speed (compared to the Xeon) can post results that are more than 4 times as fast.
Anyway this is it for me, since this is the weekend. I'll look for some x86 fast sqrt function Monday at work (I am pretty sure that such a thing exists, and if so it may be used in this test).
Sheesh, I have no idea how Java is defeating C... and those scores are still bizzarre. However PCUser did get 8.86 seconds on an Athlon 1533 with the right compiler flags. Looking at that, I wonder if the compiler flags are the cause here. Since this whole thing is essentially sqrt(), I wonder if the newer x86 chips are packing some strange special sqrt() assembly instruction that makes this huge difference. Hmmm. Otherwise I wonder how an Athlon at a little more than twice my clock speed (compared to the Xeon) can post results that are more than 4 times as fast.
Anyway this is it for me, since this is the weekend. I'll look for some x86 fast sqrt function Monday at work (I am pretty sure that such a thing exists, and if so it may be used in this test).
MacCoaster
Sep 20, 11:14 PM
Originally posted by avkills
Microsoft has not beat Apple as far as a 64bit consumer OS goes. Name one consumer chip that is 64bit. Thank you. Carry on.
Also, I think NT is limited to 4 processors unless they have updated that recently. Clustering is not the same as a multi-processor machine. Unix scales better than NT, just deal with it. Apple could easily make a rack server that had 16 processors, with a kick arse OpenGL card and teach SGI a lesson. They don't have the market for that though...yet!
-mark
The Intel Itanium. Granted, it's not for consumers per se, but it's still for high-end consumers. Compare that with Power Mac G4s.
NT can do up to 32 processors per machine as of the Windows .NET family.
Microsoft has not beat Apple as far as a 64bit consumer OS goes. Name one consumer chip that is 64bit. Thank you. Carry on.
Also, I think NT is limited to 4 processors unless they have updated that recently. Clustering is not the same as a multi-processor machine. Unix scales better than NT, just deal with it. Apple could easily make a rack server that had 16 processors, with a kick arse OpenGL card and teach SGI a lesson. They don't have the market for that though...yet!
-mark
The Intel Itanium. Granted, it's not for consumers per se, but it's still for high-end consumers. Compare that with Power Mac G4s.
NT can do up to 32 processors per machine as of the Windows .NET family.
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cycocelica
Jun 5, 11:30 AM
Well I am not sure if I would take another free printer but I would take one just to have another one. Just because I like Apple doesnt mean that if they want to give me a new printer for free I wouldn't take it. Apple has tons of money.
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eyelikeart
Oct 15, 02:49 PM
she's just living her life...outside of MR... ;)
right now she's in Atlanta getting a dog :D
right now she's in Atlanta getting a dog :D
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Tarlach
Aug 27, 01:00 AM
OMG, I went to buy a new G4 DP until I heard the fan kick in. It sounded like a vacumm cleaner . The loudest computer I have ever heard. I can't work with that in my office.
What is Apple thinking!
What is Apple thinking!
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oldMac
Sep 6, 03:09 PM
Ok... So maybe IBM isn't interested in putting Altivec instructions in their PowerPCs.
But tell me, what would stop Motorola or another Altivec licensee from creating a co-processor that handles Altivec instructions?
Could we be looking at IBM G5s with a Motorola (or other party) Altivec unit?
But tell me, what would stop Motorola or another Altivec licensee from creating a co-processor that handles Altivec instructions?
Could we be looking at IBM G5s with a Motorola (or other party) Altivec unit?
dudemac
Mar 19, 07:51 AM
As of this morning sometime it seems that it is no longer able to download, but still allows browsing and account login.
livingfortoday
Mar 18, 04:39 PM
it was bound to happen, but as of today(ish) we have been overtaken. and we are likely to be overtaken by two other teams fairly soon. such a shame. where has everyone gone? we used to get about 60k a day.
oh well
i'm just pootling along myself, but i suppose it all counts.
Dang, that is sad. I stopped running F@H because it kept messing up on my Intel Mac, and have since gone over to the BOINC side. When I'm done doin' my bit over there, though, I'll be back...
oh well
i'm just pootling along myself, but i suppose it all counts.
Dang, that is sad. I stopped running F@H because it kept messing up on my Intel Mac, and have since gone over to the BOINC side. When I'm done doin' my bit over there, though, I'll be back...
Rower_CPU
Sep 8, 11:22 PM
Road to Perdition was great!
I heard about that MP game, but never tried it...let us know if you find the link. :)
I heard about that MP game, but never tried it...let us know if you find the link. :)
zap2
Mar 24, 12:21 PM
:rolleyes: people bitch way too much around here. Of course Sony is gonna say its "last-gen" or it doesn't work with their SIXAXIS because they didn't wanna pay the bill. Any other company would do the exact same thing.
Nope....MS didn't, they were sued by the same company and settled for 26M, never once did they not put force feedback in there system, and they cite the reason as it being "last gen"
Nope....MS didn't, they were sued by the same company and settled for 26M, never once did they not put force feedback in there system, and they cite the reason as it being "last gen"
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vniow
Oct 17, 10:22 PM
1. Mini DVD Drive
This would allow the Cube to decrease in size immensely. Mini CDs and DVDs are only 80mm (roughly 3 inches). Most software is still on conventional CDs, and so the miniature DVD would still be able to hold more than a CD. Granted, most developers wouldn't appreciate the switch to DVDs.
Absolutely not. The last thing we need is more DVD format confusion.
Interesting idea, but it would be expensive since almost nobody uses them,
Plus, like you said, developers wouldn't go for it. They're not going to spend extra money on a new-unproven format.
2. G3 Processor
The 750FX produces very little heat and consumes very little power in comparison to the G4. Performance wouldn't be the issue of my concept-Cube.
Somehow I think that people would want more than a non-Altiveced G3.
Maybe the Sahara chip with some sort of Altivec, but not the G3 used in the iBook or the CRT imac.
It may be small and cool-running, but with the amount of people bitching about slow Macs noe, imagine what woul happen if they announced a Cube with a G3.:eek:
3. Laptop Hard Drives
Yes, they're slower, but they consume less power and also produce less heat. However, they would likely be suitable for non-Power users and simple iMovie work.
Now that's a good idea. You can get them up to 5400 RPM now so performance wouldn't be top-notch, but it chould be fine for everyday use.
I wonder how hard it would be to made a 7200 RPM version of a laptop drive, it would probably be hot though, my IBM Deathstar will burn you if you don't let it cool down first.:(
4. Fewer Ports
If you need more, buy a USB or FireWire hub. Cynical yes, but space saving, also yes.
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This would allow the Cube to decrease in size immensely. Mini CDs and DVDs are only 80mm (roughly 3 inches). Most software is still on conventional CDs, and so the miniature DVD would still be able to hold more than a CD. Granted, most developers wouldn't appreciate the switch to DVDs.
Absolutely not. The last thing we need is more DVD format confusion.
Interesting idea, but it would be expensive since almost nobody uses them,
Plus, like you said, developers wouldn't go for it. They're not going to spend extra money on a new-unproven format.
2. G3 Processor
The 750FX produces very little heat and consumes very little power in comparison to the G4. Performance wouldn't be the issue of my concept-Cube.
Somehow I think that people would want more than a non-Altiveced G3.
Maybe the Sahara chip with some sort of Altivec, but not the G3 used in the iBook or the CRT imac.
It may be small and cool-running, but with the amount of people bitching about slow Macs noe, imagine what woul happen if they announced a Cube with a G3.:eek:
3. Laptop Hard Drives
Yes, they're slower, but they consume less power and also produce less heat. However, they would likely be suitable for non-Power users and simple iMovie work.
Now that's a good idea. You can get them up to 5400 RPM now so performance wouldn't be top-notch, but it chould be fine for everyday use.
I wonder how hard it would be to made a 7200 RPM version of a laptop drive, it would probably be hot though, my IBM Deathstar will burn you if you don't let it cool down first.:(
4. Fewer Ports
If you need more, buy a USB or FireWire hub. Cynical yes, but space saving, also yes.
Anon
Oct 16, 02:22 PM
Yes, very few things can live up to the hyped up expectations of the rumormill. When you consider the added instruction dispatch, out of order execution, 2nd altivec compatible unit, larger cache, increased bandwidth due to being 64-bit, increased addressing space, and what appears to be DDR support (450mhz doubles to 900 bit) this chip is awesome.
SilvorX
Sep 22, 01:01 AM
Originally posted by awrc
New Technology - I'd take the Nortel thing with a large pinch of salt.
lol well it was ppl who knew alot about windows who told me northern telecom since NT was originally for server/networking/etc and nortel was a huge networking company n such till 2 years ago when they almost went bankrupt and when i used to be a windows fan i remember seeing lots of news headlines on the ms site about ms and nortel partnerships....
well windows codenames arent named after canadian cities, just the current ver of windows n the next couple versions of windows...
win 95: chicago
win nt: cairo
windows me: millennium
detroit: cancelled win 95 successor
Windows 6.0 (within the next 5 years): blackcomb
Windows XP: whistler
next version of windows: longhorn...longhorn whistler and blackcomb are all located a few hr drive from redmond, which are in the rocky mountains up in canada....
n theres dozens more, including one called bobcat...and tonnes that are names of planets n such
New Technology - I'd take the Nortel thing with a large pinch of salt.
lol well it was ppl who knew alot about windows who told me northern telecom since NT was originally for server/networking/etc and nortel was a huge networking company n such till 2 years ago when they almost went bankrupt and when i used to be a windows fan i remember seeing lots of news headlines on the ms site about ms and nortel partnerships....
well windows codenames arent named after canadian cities, just the current ver of windows n the next couple versions of windows...
win 95: chicago
win nt: cairo
windows me: millennium
detroit: cancelled win 95 successor
Windows 6.0 (within the next 5 years): blackcomb
Windows XP: whistler
next version of windows: longhorn...longhorn whistler and blackcomb are all located a few hr drive from redmond, which are in the rocky mountains up in canada....
n theres dozens more, including one called bobcat...and tonnes that are names of planets n such
strider42
Sep 5, 05:41 PM
Originally posted by Chaszmyr
it seems to me that the powerbook isn't very fast for how much it costs... and especially if the tibook is no more they could implement dual processor. I also dont believe this has ever been done before so apple my try to be innovative again and go dual with laptops... any comments about how possible you think this is?
I'm sure apple would love to, but they don't want to put in dual processors if it makes it too hot to pick up (not to mention cool efficently), as well as maintain a reasonable battery life (if you have to add another fan, thats goign to take up more power as well). frankly, i think it would take a fairly large redesign of the enclosure to do it, and coming up with som really innovative cooling. I'm sure they are working on lots of stuff, but for the meantime, I'd say its just nto going to happen anytime soon.
I do, however, expect a pretty good speed bump.
Is the Ti book expensive. I suppose it is, but you aren't just paying for speed. You're paying for a nice wide screen, optical drives, decent sized hard drive, and a desktop equaling processor (not just a scaled down version with the same name), all in a super thin case. Thin and that full featured costs money. They could probably make it cheaper simply by making the case larger, but thats not really the way they want to go.
it seems to me that the powerbook isn't very fast for how much it costs... and especially if the tibook is no more they could implement dual processor. I also dont believe this has ever been done before so apple my try to be innovative again and go dual with laptops... any comments about how possible you think this is?
I'm sure apple would love to, but they don't want to put in dual processors if it makes it too hot to pick up (not to mention cool efficently), as well as maintain a reasonable battery life (if you have to add another fan, thats goign to take up more power as well). frankly, i think it would take a fairly large redesign of the enclosure to do it, and coming up with som really innovative cooling. I'm sure they are working on lots of stuff, but for the meantime, I'd say its just nto going to happen anytime soon.
I do, however, expect a pretty good speed bump.
Is the Ti book expensive. I suppose it is, but you aren't just paying for speed. You're paying for a nice wide screen, optical drives, decent sized hard drive, and a desktop equaling processor (not just a scaled down version with the same name), all in a super thin case. Thin and that full featured costs money. They could probably make it cheaper simply by making the case larger, but thats not really the way they want to go.
ipedro
May 6, 04:28 PM
I must say that it feels smaller than the one @ Yorkdale.
I'm not sure if it felt small because there were so many people in it, but I did notice that the children's area is very very small. The Genius Bar seemed larger though. It was manned by 6 geniuses.
I'm hoping that it can't meet the demand and they'll see a need for another store downtown. I'm crossing my fingers for a Yorkville flagship store.
I'm not sure if it felt small because there were so many people in it, but I did notice that the children's area is very very small. The Genius Bar seemed larger though. It was manned by 6 geniuses.
I'm hoping that it can't meet the demand and they'll see a need for another store downtown. I'm crossing my fingers for a Yorkville flagship store.
swingerofbirch
May 9, 02:07 PM
They have a page on how to convince your parents to get you a Mac. Reason number 8:
8. The Mac now has Intel inside.
Faster processing speeds, longer battery life, better compatibility. All of this is made possible by Apple�s partnership with Intel, announced in 2005. Every MacBook Pro, iMac, and Mac mini ships with an Intel chip inside, delivering high performance and exceptional value.
(http://www.apple.com/education/students/orientation/persuasion.html)
I bolded better compatibility---what exactly does this mean? Perhaps they are referencing the ability to boot in Windows? It makes it sound though as if the Intel chips have something to do with software compatibility within the Mac OS, furthering the myth that the Mac OS can't handle Windows file types.
8. The Mac now has Intel inside.
Faster processing speeds, longer battery life, better compatibility. All of this is made possible by Apple�s partnership with Intel, announced in 2005. Every MacBook Pro, iMac, and Mac mini ships with an Intel chip inside, delivering high performance and exceptional value.
(http://www.apple.com/education/students/orientation/persuasion.html)
I bolded better compatibility---what exactly does this mean? Perhaps they are referencing the ability to boot in Windows? It makes it sound though as if the Intel chips have something to do with software compatibility within the Mac OS, furthering the myth that the Mac OS can't handle Windows file types.
2GMario
Jan 25, 12:47 PM
took them long, what, 4 days ? haha
i cant wait to see this project actually happen. even if it were to come out in beta, id have to run out and get a mini
on the other hand thow, there have been alot of articles on how the mini will be used as a media center by many...
you would think, apple released this not only to enter into the low end market, but to see how a apple media center would do.
i wouldnt doubt apple is working on a MMC of thier own.
-Mario
i cant wait to see this project actually happen. even if it were to come out in beta, id have to run out and get a mini
on the other hand thow, there have been alot of articles on how the mini will be used as a media center by many...
you would think, apple released this not only to enter into the low end market, but to see how a apple media center would do.
i wouldnt doubt apple is working on a MMC of thier own.
-Mario
e-coli
Oct 13, 11:12 AM
Originally posted by markomark
well kids...
turns out that the new PB will use the new 64bit IBM chip moblie version and run in excess of 2.2ghz. I believe that the new books that we are being shown will be min of new LCD crystal with 15" std as before to offset the cost. New specs and SKU numbers to follow after intro at MWSF.
Other models get new MHZ upgrades and bluetooth std.
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well kids...
turns out that the new PB will use the new 64bit IBM chip moblie version and run in excess of 2.2ghz. I believe that the new books that we are being shown will be min of new LCD crystal with 15" std as before to offset the cost. New specs and SKU numbers to follow after intro at MWSF.
Other models get new MHZ upgrades and bluetooth std.
After G
Mar 31, 02:13 PM
Apple is being pretty sneaky these days. You never know what could show up on Saturday.
Or even better, "next Tuesday".
Or even better, "next Tuesday".
e�Studios
Mar 19, 12:52 AM
It has NO online features.
A couple of days ago, we had some sort of confusion regarding the Wii version of Blazing Angels (360 and PS3) and the possibility of a multiplayer mode, be it in the form of WiFi or full-blown online play. We're sad to share this with you but Ubisoft just dismissed these speculations.
We checked back Ubisoft's official UK site and amazingly, it has been updated and any reference to multiplayer play has been removed. This then brings us to Pokemon Revolution as the first and only video game on the Wii, as of yet, that will have the above-mentioned feature.
http://wii.qj.net/Ubisoft-No-online-play-for-Blazing-Angels-Wii/pg/49/aid/85153
After SNK’s Ben Herman made us all cry with his claim that there might not be any third-party online Wii games in yesterday saw an optimistic round of counter-gossip.
Nintendic says the rumours started with a Wi-Fi logo appearing on games site IGN next to Ubisoft’s Blazing Angels: Squadrons of WWII game. Meanwhile, NintendoWiiFanboy.com claimed that online development kits had been sent out, fuelling the fire.
But no. Wii-UK took the novel step of actually asking the publisher for the true story. Their response: no online multiplayer. Bah. Apparently the first Wii online game is still set to be those pesky Pokemon.
http://www.wiiwii.tv/2007/03/06/blazing-angels-is-online-wait-oh-no-its-not/
Wow, could SNK be telling *gasp* the truth!!¿¡¡¿¡¡¿
Wii Online Am Cry..
Ed
A couple of days ago, we had some sort of confusion regarding the Wii version of Blazing Angels (360 and PS3) and the possibility of a multiplayer mode, be it in the form of WiFi or full-blown online play. We're sad to share this with you but Ubisoft just dismissed these speculations.
We checked back Ubisoft's official UK site and amazingly, it has been updated and any reference to multiplayer play has been removed. This then brings us to Pokemon Revolution as the first and only video game on the Wii, as of yet, that will have the above-mentioned feature.
http://wii.qj.net/Ubisoft-No-online-play-for-Blazing-Angels-Wii/pg/49/aid/85153
After SNK’s Ben Herman made us all cry with his claim that there might not be any third-party online Wii games in yesterday saw an optimistic round of counter-gossip.
Nintendic says the rumours started with a Wi-Fi logo appearing on games site IGN next to Ubisoft’s Blazing Angels: Squadrons of WWII game. Meanwhile, NintendoWiiFanboy.com claimed that online development kits had been sent out, fuelling the fire.
But no. Wii-UK took the novel step of actually asking the publisher for the true story. Their response: no online multiplayer. Bah. Apparently the first Wii online game is still set to be those pesky Pokemon.
http://www.wiiwii.tv/2007/03/06/blazing-angels-is-online-wait-oh-no-its-not/
Wow, could SNK be telling *gasp* the truth!!¿¡¡¿¡¡¿
Wii Online Am Cry..
Ed
job
Oct 20, 03:35 PM
Originally posted by applemacdude
Not anymore...
Huh? What do you mean? :confused:
Also, where did AmbitiousLemon go?
Not anymore...
Huh? What do you mean? :confused:
Also, where did AmbitiousLemon go?
dpaanlka
Apr 30, 10:40 PM
Suddenly my campus (Bradley University) has been swamped with hundreds of huge "The official guide to using a Mac" brochures, that feature pictures of MacBooks and Intel iMacs.
It opens to a nice poster size piece that says "Rule #1: Enjoy yourself."
Could this be a part of the "new" Mac advertising campaign?
Anybody else see these?
I'll scan them when I have the chance.
It opens to a nice poster size piece that says "Rule #1: Enjoy yourself."
Could this be a part of the "new" Mac advertising campaign?
Anybody else see these?
I'll scan them when I have the chance.
Macmaniac
Oct 22, 04:24 PM
I used to listen to a show on Public Radio called the Compududes who would give tech support on air. One day they were reporting on the new G4 cube and they reffered to one of the rumors sites. "Oh we saw something about the cube a few weeks ago at macrumors.com.
So I thought on it a bit.
I fired up my Performa 6300 and pointed my browser to macrumors.com and I signed up, the rest is history:)
So I thought on it a bit.
I fired up my Performa 6300 and pointed my browser to macrumors.com and I signed up, the rest is history:)
XNine
Jun 20, 05:35 PM
It is hard to believe this was written when it was... this was 7 months after acquiring NeXT and he is saying:"Sales of Rhapsody are $0."The first developer version of Rhapsody was still almost two months away at this, what was he expecting?
More importantly, Apple was making money from NeXT software. Apple had released OPENSTEP 4.2 in January of 1997 and would continue to sell OPENSTEP, and NeXT versions of Enterprise Objects and WebObjects until 2001. While sales of Rhapsody (which didn't exist as a stand alone OS yet) were $0... sales of WebObjects at the time were a completely different story. WebObjects was (back in 1997) the only software of it's kind for the internet at the beginning of the net bubble. While I don't think Apple managed WebObjects that well after the .com burst, they were making good money with WebObjects leading up to that point.
Plus, this person seems to be unaware that Sun would have been willing to pay as much as Apple did (most likely more) to get NeXT. The thing is, NeXT wasn't for sale until Apple bought them. And Sun was throwing money around at anything back then (people even thought they might buy Apple), so had they been able to buy NeXT to secure their plans, they would have (they had just bought Lighthouse Design so that they would have a native office suite for OpenStep Solaris).
It is pretty bad when people make claims like they have some type of inside knowledge when they really don't. Had something like this been written today, I would have bet that Dvorak had written it to boost his numbers.
I've seen you make several posts about NeXT in the past. Just curious, because I never had used it, but were you an avid user of it or are you a guru when it comes to tech history? (or both?)
More importantly, Apple was making money from NeXT software. Apple had released OPENSTEP 4.2 in January of 1997 and would continue to sell OPENSTEP, and NeXT versions of Enterprise Objects and WebObjects until 2001. While sales of Rhapsody (which didn't exist as a stand alone OS yet) were $0... sales of WebObjects at the time were a completely different story. WebObjects was (back in 1997) the only software of it's kind for the internet at the beginning of the net bubble. While I don't think Apple managed WebObjects that well after the .com burst, they were making good money with WebObjects leading up to that point.
Plus, this person seems to be unaware that Sun would have been willing to pay as much as Apple did (most likely more) to get NeXT. The thing is, NeXT wasn't for sale until Apple bought them. And Sun was throwing money around at anything back then (people even thought they might buy Apple), so had they been able to buy NeXT to secure their plans, they would have (they had just bought Lighthouse Design so that they would have a native office suite for OpenStep Solaris).
It is pretty bad when people make claims like they have some type of inside knowledge when they really don't. Had something like this been written today, I would have bet that Dvorak had written it to boost his numbers.
I've seen you make several posts about NeXT in the past. Just curious, because I never had used it, but were you an avid user of it or are you a guru when it comes to tech history? (or both?)